Thin PCOS and Fertility - Page 46

rita3110 · 07-30-2011, 12:06 PM

karidpt
well i actually cant tell you anything about a diet.
im the same as you, dont have a IR and everytime it got checked i had very good levels (also in the lower range).about 8 month ago i started taking metformin ( i know its very controversial) but after about 4-5 month my cykle went from 60-80 days to like 31 days (always with ovulation)...so i believe it also works in women with no detectable IR..

karidpt · 07-30-2011, 12:20 PM

Rita, i agree with you there. I think I flucuate.....i didnt pass the Glucose tolerance screen, but past the actual test with DD....so i guess its all relative as to what you have eaten and when....

Maybe ill try the low GI diet...not to lose weight of course but for fertility.

praises1139 · 07-30-2011, 01:48 PM

Kari, were you fasting when you didn't pass? I'm guessing you were because they usually make you for do that for bloodwork, but for my glucola at 20wks, my OB said fasting is not required but she recommends it so you don't fail it unnecessarily.
I'd say it can't hurt to go gluten free but for me when I did low GI for a while, it made me lose weight, so I was slightly underweight. But maybe I didn't eat enough protein, I don't know. I had increased my protein when I cut down on carbs, so I thought my diet was fine. My insulin/glucose has always been fine, but I liked cutting the carbs because I think I was eating them too much and craving them--not good for anyone.
I read the glycemic load is more accurate than GI so at some point I tried to do lower GL instead.

TiffM630 · 07-30-2011, 01:59 PM

My fasting glucose and insulin b/w comes back normal as well, but I truly believe I do have IR. Starting fresh w/ this cycle, I'm going to do the sugar busters diet. I have read the book and tried it in the past, it is really good---even if you aren't diabetic or IR! (let me clarify "good" as in healthy-not always yummy!!

). The sugar busters works by minimizing the spikes in concentrated sugar meaning your body doesn't have to produce as much insulin in response. Maybe look at trying a low concentrated sugar diet.

readytogo · 07-31-2011, 10:47 PM

Kari, like you I had no IR or blood sugar, etc. issues according to my doctor. But after reading enough literature about how every woman with PCOS is to some degree IR, I started seriously consider lifestyle adjustments. I really believe that going gluten free is what led me to my BFP. It's when I changed my diet and started exercising every day that I went from ovulating at CD50 or 60 or more to ovulating at CD30something. I could never achieve "perfect" cycles, but I really brought cycle length down with lifestyle adjustments. I wrote about exactly what I did in detail on my blog if you're interested in reading about my meals, etc.

http://literallyorganized.blogspot.c...s-arrival.html

I know we are all different, but my feeling was that after knowing a woman who controlled her thin PCOS through diet, it was worth trying. I did not lose any real weight doing this, maybe like two pounds, but that was fine. I essentially maintained weight because I made sure to eat plenty of protein throughout the day (and whole fat dairy helped, too). I also felt better than I have in my entire life, so I really believe that gluten was making me not feel as awesome. Of course, once I got pregnant, all I could eat first tri was gluten-based foods and fruits. Oh well. If you want more detail, feel free to message me!

Kima2222 · 08-21-2011, 12:23 AM

Skinny cyster here....starting taking vitex for 2 months, finally started my period after 8 months of not getting it... face started clearing up, full length menstruation...now do you think I should continue taking vitex until I see if I get my period again? Any one else have experience with vitex?...wondering if the vitex was just a coincidence or if it actually worked..any information or personal experience with vitex is greatly appreciated!! Doctor said taking vitex can "only help" but thinks by taking vitex we will always be playing a catch up game on regulated our hormones for the next ovulation...vitex lowers testosterone yes?? or does it only increase estrogen levels?

praises1139 · 08-21-2011, 10:22 PM

Kima--i never tried Vitex but i read about it here..it talks about how it works. that's great that you got a period! i would keep taking it. i would like to try it in the future.
http://www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com/vitex.html

Kima2222 · 08-23-2011, 01:12 AM

thanks..I kind of want to start saw palmetto too...any thoughts?

praises1139 · 09-06-2011, 05:42 PM

the same website above has an article about saw palmetto too. i've heard it's beneficial, but not sure if it's ok for TTC.

07-30-2011, 12:06 PM	#451
rita3110 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 215	karidpt well i actually cant tell you anything about a diet. im the same as you, dont have a IR and everytime it got checked i had very good levels (also in the lower range).about 8 month ago i started taking metformin ( i know its very controversial) but after about 4-5 month my cykle went from 60-80 days to like 31 days (always with ovulation)...so i believe it also works in women with no detectable IR.. __________________ thin PCOS me (28) , DH (33) ttc #1: mc 10/2010; third cycle that i ovulate (17/18/19 cd) on my own, but lpd first round of clomid 50mg BFP!!!!!! 10dpo:hcg35 / 12dpo:hcg160/ 16dpo:hcg650 6/16 strong heartbeat!!!! Its a BOY ttc #2: 3 natural cycles...still lpd :-( - clomid,estrace,follistim : no o (probably due to estrace) - letrozole 5mg,estrace, gonal f : BFN - gonal f: cycle cancled/ drop of estradiol levels

07-30-2011, 12:20 PM	#452
karidpt Senior Member PCOSuperStar! Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,029	Rita, i agree with you there. I think I flucuate.....i didnt pass the Glucose tolerance screen, but past the actual test with DD....so i guess its all relative as to what you have eaten and when.... Maybe ill try the low GI diet...not to lose weight of course but for fertility. __________________ Kari (31) DH (30) Dx: Thin PCOS 2008, Ashermans Syndrome 2011 DD: 11/8/09 (most beautiful girl in the world) DS: 3/31/13 (my little heartbreaker) DS2: 6/3/14 (mamas baby) P.U.S.H. (Pray Until Something Happens)[/b][/size]

07-30-2011, 01:48 PM	#453
praises1139 Senior Member PCOSuperStar! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NorthCarolina Posts: 3,332	Kari, were you fasting when you didn't pass? I'm guessing you were because they usually make you for do that for bloodwork, but for my glucola at 20wks, my OB said fasting is not required but she recommends it so you don't fail it unnecessarily. I'd say it can't hurt to go gluten free but for me when I did low GI for a while, it made me lose weight, so I was slightly underweight. But maybe I didn't eat enough protein, I don't know. I had increased my protein when I cut down on carbs, so I thought my diet was fine. My insulin/glucose has always been fine, but I liked cutting the carbs because I think I was eating them too much and craving them--not good for anyone. I read the glycemic load is more accurate than GI so at some point I tried to do lower GL instead. Last edited by praises1139; 07-30-2011 at 01:59 PM.

07-30-2011, 01:59 PM	#454
TiffM630 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 305	My fasting glucose and insulin b/w comes back normal as well, but I truly believe I do have IR. Starting fresh w/ this cycle, I'm going to do the sugar busters diet. I have read the book and tried it in the past, it is really good---even if you aren't diabetic or IR! (let me clarify "good" as in healthy-not always yummy!!). The sugar busters works by minimizing the spikes in concentrated sugar meaning your body doesn't have to produce as much insulin in response. Maybe look at trying a low concentrated sugar diet.

07-31-2011, 10:47 PM	#455
readytogo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 171	Kari, like you I had no IR or blood sugar, etc. issues according to my doctor. But after reading enough literature about how every woman with PCOS is to some degree IR, I started seriously consider lifestyle adjustments. I really believe that going gluten free is what led me to my BFP. It's when I changed my diet and started exercising every day that I went from ovulating at CD50 or 60 or more to ovulating at CD30something. I could never achieve "perfect" cycles, but I really brought cycle length down with lifestyle adjustments. I wrote about exactly what I did in detail on my blog if you're interested in reading about my meals, etc. http://literallyorganized.blogspot.c...s-arrival.html I know we are all different, but my feeling was that after knowing a woman who controlled her thin PCOS through diet, it was worth trying. I did not lose any real weight doing this, maybe like two pounds, but that was fine. I essentially maintained weight because I made sure to eat plenty of protein throughout the day (and whole fat dairy helped, too). I also felt better than I have in my entire life, so I really believe that gluten was making me not feel as awesome. Of course, once I got pregnant, all I could eat first tri was gluten-based foods and fruits. Oh well. If you want more detail, feel free to message me! __________________ Me --30, DH -- 31 (no problems) Started TTC #1 July 2010 Dx Jan 2011 While TTC: Prenatal, vitex, red raspberry leaf, evening primrose/flaxseed oil, cod liver oil, B6, B12, D, E, gluten-free, daily exercise, no caffeine/minimal alcohol, pineapple core 1DPO-5DPO While pregnant: Prenatal, B6, B12, D, Endometrin (through week 12) BFP 4/24/11 10DPO! Natalie Anna born 1/12/12 Last edited by readytogo; 07-31-2011 at 10:53 PM.

08-21-2011, 12:23 AM	#456
Kima2222 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 43	Skinny cyster here....starting taking vitex for 2 months, finally started my period after 8 months of not getting it... face started clearing up, full length menstruation...now do you think I should continue taking vitex until I see if I get my period again? Any one else have experience with vitex?...wondering if the vitex was just a coincidence or if it actually worked..any information or personal experience with vitex is greatly appreciated!! Doctor said taking vitex can "only help" but thinks by taking vitex we will always be playing a catch up game on regulated our hormones for the next ovulation...vitex lowers testosterone yes?? or does it only increase estrogen levels?

08-21-2011, 10:22 PM	#457
praises1139 Senior Member PCOSuperStar! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NorthCarolina Posts: 3,332	Kima--i never tried Vitex but i read about it here..it talks about how it works. that's great that you got a period! i would keep taking it. i would like to try it in the future. http://www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com/vitex.html

08-23-2011, 01:12 AM	#458
Kima2222 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 43	thanks..I kind of want to start saw palmetto too...any thoughts?

09-06-2011, 05:42 PM	#459
praises1139 Senior Member PCOSuperStar! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NorthCarolina Posts: 3,332	the same website above has an article about saw palmetto too. i've heard it's beneficial, but not sure if it's ok for TTC.

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